85 works for me just fine, but you're right, they seem easy to get off and that's usually the way they should be. dsbike is right though, too many people just use an impact gun. If you're used to taking off wheels that have been torqued to 140 ft/lbs, then 85 will feel like nothing. Most other cars I've had use 90 as well and I think that would be fine on the FJ. Just remember some anti-seize on the studs.